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Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:53:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:At the 46 min 17 sec mark the victim was asked to put mayo in his mouth and dribble some down his chin.
There was no request to smear mayo on himself in that particular recording that I heard.
Not approving of it (I've made my strong thoughts on the whole mayo and photos issue clear elsewhere) but where facts can be used we should probably try to use them. At 47:55 in this clip, Erotica 1 says, "Would you also be able to with mayonnaise spell Erotica 1 on your chest, please?" This is after asking the guy to find a camera.
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Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:06:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Liese Shardani wrote:At 47:55 in this clip, Erotica 1 says, "Would you also be able to with mayonnaise spell Erotica 1 on your chest, please?" This is after asking the guy to find a camera. Perfect. Thanks. Christ on a cracker, I cannot even believe how much time I've spent listening to these things. Fascinating, in a train wreck kind of way.
The guys being scammed don't readily recognize all the little traps being laid for them, but it's actually obvious as hell. Ero and his pals have a few tells that totally give away when they smell a weakness they can use.
Out of curiosity, have they ever run a Bonus Round for a female player? Are there any female escrow agents? I've only heard male voices. |
Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.27 04:01:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Mike Azariah wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:Ban Ripard Teg his harassment of Erotica and Sohkar can not be denied! Remove him from the the CSM he is unfit to represent this community. Well we can have him removed from the CSM but due process and paperwork is gonna take about 6 weeks. I'll get right on it. m Good thank you Mike! I appreciate the support in keeping the CSM a respectful embodiment of the EVE community. Umm, the results of CSM9 will be announced May 3rd, which is less than 6 weeks away. I don't think it was a serious suggestion.
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Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.27 05:35:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Not to mention that Erotica and friends were in control of the situation the entire time. Its part of the manipulation to use a calm tone and to remain calm and collected because it contrasts with the victims out of control manner and removes even more control from the victim. Its why people tell you to take a step back or a deep breath in a conflict situation because it helps in regards to recovering some control.
They're manipulative, that's the whole idea of the bonus round. Exactly. They keep talking about how polite they are, and I've heard them say a few times that there's to be no foul language in the Bonus Room. Gosh, look how reasonable and nice we are; there couldn't be anything wrong with what we're doing! But see that freak over there yelling and swearing? He's obviously the one with the problem.
That whole thing where they were telling Sohkar to take a deep breath or get a class of water or whatever? A show of dominance. We're in charge here, and you're obviously a weakling who's unable to control your emotions, so we're doing you a favor by giving you suggestions on how to calm down.
Did they really think that people listening to those sessions wouldn't see through this? |
Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.27 05:41:00 -
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Hiljah wrote:I played in a sandbox when I was a kid. One time I found poop in it. I took the poop out. Then I went back to having fun.
Great analogy.
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Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:03:00 -
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I've heard a fair number of voices online, and his doesn't sound altered to me. He's got a nice voice, IMO, but it also has that podcaster-who-likes-to-hear-himself-talk feel to it. |
Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.27 22:56:00 -
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From the limerick contest:
Snupe Doggur wrote:Where once an inveterate scammer Eluded the mighty ban hammer, With fantasies facial And thoughts mayonnaisal, Now faces the virtual slammer.
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Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:43:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:So, to be clear, if you were walkign down the street, and saw someone with a booth that said "YOU COULD BE THE NEXT WINNER!" and was asking somone to sing karaoke, you would step in and stop his chances of winning? Okay, there's telling someone he has to sing karaoke to win a prize. Sounds harmless enough.
But then there's telling him he has to sing with steak stuffed in his mouth and mayonnaise dribbling down his chin...and write Erotica 1 on his torso in mayonnaise...and take a picture of it.
https://soundcloud.com/philip-smith-24/erotica-1-customer
You see those two things as equivalent?
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Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:57:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Xuixien wrote:Liese Shardani wrote:Kristalll wrote:So, to be clear, if you were walkign down the street, and saw someone with a booth that said "YOU COULD BE THE NEXT WINNER!" and was asking somone to sing karaoke, you would step in and stop his chances of winning? Okay, there's telling someone he has to sing karaoke to win a prize. Sounds harmless enough. But then there's telling him he has to sing with steak stuffed in his mouth and mayonnaise dribbling down his chin...and write Erotica 1 on his torso in mayonnaise...and take a picture of it. https://soundcloud.com/philip-smith-24/erotica-1-customerYou see those two things as equivalent? Where is the part that it's all entirely voluntary lost on you? Which part of, "We just took everything you have ever worked for in this game and if you don't participate in our sadistic ritual, you'll have no chance of getting it back", is lost on you? Mr Epeen The part where pixels aren't real seems to have escaped you. Well, *something's* real enough to keep y'all in here for days in a row defending this practice and your buddy. And for the rest of us in here voicing whatever opinions we've got about it.
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Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 01:24:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Liese Shardani wrote:Well, *something's* real enough to keep y'all in here for days in a row defending this practice and your buddy. And for the rest of us in here voicing whatever opinions we've got about it.
I'll tell you what I told the last guy. Maybe I just don't like lynch mobs summoned up by the despicable Ripard Teg. I don't always agree with Jester, but I think it's good he called this out, regardless of his motives. That said, my tinfoil hat got run over by the mail truck and I haven't made another one yet, so I'm having a hard time seeing a conspiracy on his part.
I don't view this as a lynch mob. Sure, there are a few people advocating pretty extreme remedies on either side of the issue, but not everyone is. I haven't.
I wouldn't characterize these Bonus Round activities as sexual assault or torture or whatever, but creepy as hell? Check. Unbecoming to the EVE community and not something we should tolerate? Absolutely. Scamming is one thing and a part of the EVE mechanics, but the stuff some people were put through in the Bonus Round is ridiculous, and I think community standards should change to discourage it. I don't see any of these statements on my part as lynch mob behavior.
Xuixien wrote:Personally I play for the community and friends I've made.
ISK is irrelevant to me beyond a means of keeping my accounts subbed.
Ships are really just a means to having fun, and if I was hard up, I'm sure a member of the community I'm in would have no problem giving me some. Yeah, same here. I don't need more ships or bling or whatever. If I need it, I build it. (Well, *this* toon doesn't -- she doesn't have skills worth a flip.) |
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Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 02:13:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:They learn about St Olga whom helped the less fortunate so they could prosper upon their own. The Saint Olga who had some rather inventive ways of wiping out her enemies? She buried the first batch alive, burned the next, and then used some weird pigeon-weaponry scheme to burn up the rest.
I skimmed the Wikipedia article the other night while I was listening to one of those freaky cracktastic Bonus Room audios and wondered at the time if there's not some kind of long con revenge plot afoot here somewhere.
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Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 04:48:00 -
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Listening to the feed now. Sohkar comes off as pretty self-possessed and chill, and I'm glad he's holding his own and maintaining his independence. Good for him. A welcome change from the Bonus Room, where he just kept taking it over and over. |
Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 05:49:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:For the record, Sokhar just called Riptard Riptard. It was amazing. And he also said he didn't know how to pronounce the name, just to be clear. |
Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 05:59:00 -
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Ehh, not a fan of the -tard thing for any name, but that's just me.
No hate from me here, either. I'd just like to see the humiliation game show stuff not be a thing in EVE. Scams are here to stay, but the line needed to be drawn at pushing people to the total freakout point. That's what many people seem to be objecting to. |
Liese Shardani
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 07:07:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:quit trying to relight the fire. Sohkar ended it himself. I agree. There's stuff to be learned from this and, as CSM Mike was saying earlier, ways EVE could be cooler for all of us. I think we could use a break from the pitchforks.
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